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Sword · Jan 07, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

explorer x3
+
protector x3
+
skill hunter x3
=
9 towards people know me

...that just lame imo. Those title are easy to get and barely time consuming at all... nothing impressive at all.
All you need is 1 more title after that and u have 10. Easy to get pve titles are ftl ... then adding a bunch together for KOAB or even PKM is just lame imo.
If pvers want to get cool titles make them work for it, none of this protector and skill hunter crap

Bhaaltazar · Jan 07, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

dont u think that all this "prestige" titles r just big waste of time? I mean with no benefits and all..?

logan90 · Jan 07, 2007, 01:55 PM // 13:55

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

Are you sure? I thought A-net is just looking for quick and easy ways to cheapen the KOABD title.

They probably are. They are going to add more tiers for the KoaBD title track so they need to add more titles to get those higher tiers.

dantheman5415 · Jan 07, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

I have 291 elites capped, and frankly, I couldn't give a damn if they broke up the titles and made them maxable. Regardless of whether I get KoaBD with it or not, the title I will always be wearing will be my r5 Elite Skill Hunter (will go up with additional chapters, of course) or the maxed International Skill Hunter Gaile was talking about.

Pandora's box · Jan 07, 2007, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Its equal to me.
I only don't understand why there is only 1 mission completion title (Tyria) and why you need to do the bonus to make it count for a completed mission.

Kook~NBK~ · Jan 08, 2007, 06:40 AM // 06:40

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Originally Posted by Pandora's box

Its equal to me.
I only don't understand why there is only 1 mission completion title (Tyria) and why you need to do the bonus to make it count for a completed mission.

Huh??? Each campaign has a "Protector" title track. In factions, you have to do every mission under a certian time, (except the 1 where you keep the baby turtles alive an the one where you keep them other things from dying) to get "Masters" on the mission, which will make it count for the title. In Nightfall, each mission has a different way to get the Masters.

Why do you need to get Masters/Bonus on the missions for them to count? It makes it more of a challenge, especially in factions and Nightfall. And if it didn't, it'd be way to easy to get the title.

I pwnd U · Jan 08, 2007, 07:43 AM // 07:43

Defiently each campaign! If you do that then one could max out the title. I have been skill capping alot lately and its a pain to know that I can never get max title for it. Make it campaign based!

Gusnana1412 · Jan 08, 2007, 11:02 AM // 11:02

Some comment, if dev introduce new titles or by splitting the Skill Hunter Title (it seem they add new titles for every new chapter from now on) it will not make KOABD title cheapen/easy to get, Because they will raise the level of KOABD to lvl 3 for 15 title maxed, lvl 4 for 20 title maxed, and more.

For a player who want the "elite" title, they need to always maintain their title to be high/elite. (Is not like, woah I already achieve KOABD, I will stop playing now because I already achieve the "elite" title <_<'')

Some Addition, It would be nice if there will be cross chapter title to replace current Skill Hunter title.

Also it would be nice if we can use our old title, not only the current lvl of our title. For Example a player already achieve lvl 5 of skill hunter so the title name will be "Elite Skill Hunter (5)" but maybe because personal preference the player like the old best "Expert Skill Hunter". Why don't make it possible to use old title but keeping the max lvl after the title:
"Expert Skill Hunter (5)"

(5) -- This represent the current rank title of the player.

Note: Player will not able to use the higher title than their current rank :
Example:
Player with 290 capped Elite (5) will able to use all title same/lower than "Elite Skill Hunter"

Player with 180 capped Elite (3) will able to use all title same/lower than "Expert Skill Hunter" but will not able to use higher than "Expert Skill Hunter " Title

The Silver Star · Jan 08, 2007, 11:16 AM // 11:16

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Originally Posted by Bhaaltazar

dont u think that all this "prestige" titles r just big waste of time? I mean with no benefits and all..?

Well its because the PvE sucks so people need something to do like egt titles since they complete the game within a day or two. LEave scrubs to grind there titles, split the Elite title up, should of been that way fro mthe start but have a title for having them all etc throguh all campaigns.

Meat Axe · Jan 09, 2007, 05:31 AM // 05:31

I'm all for the title change... would have voted in the poll, but i'm ignorant and only came across this topic today.

The thing I like most about this change would be the thing that appeals most to me about GW. The team responsible for this game doesn't seem to be in it just for the money. There's no monthly fee. There's nothing to stop you playing just the first chapter if that's the only one you really like. They seem to genuinely want their players to have a good time. Why else would they overload their servers during the festival events? This change would give all players something to aim for, no matter what combination of games they own. And that's the thing that makes games fun.

Those of you that say titles are pointless... I can't say you're wrong, it's your opinion. But the titles give us players something to aim for. Something that adds to the gaming experience. Something that makes a game worth buying. (I haven't bought a game apart from GW since 2001, when Baldur's Gate 2 expansion came out, and before that I only bought games like Monkey Island, with real entertainment value). GW has entertainment value because of the goals an individual can set for himself. Also the fact that the graphics are just so very pretty. I mean, anyone can play PvP, but I'm no good at it, so it's no fun. I don't know, there's something more wholesome and amusing when you get killed by a swarm of undead, fighting for your life with stinking, rotting flesh all around you. But if you're killed by someone who is better than you, it's just like "Hmm. They're better than me. Damn."

I realise this post is very long, but I take comfort in the fact that this thread was started 2 months ago, so it's unlikely that many people will read it.

So all I'm really trying to say, after this long ramble, is go title tracks. Bring them on. PvE is great. Oh, and my dervish is hot, and I'd love to see something like "International Elite Skill Hunter" on her.

dread pirate fargus · Jan 10, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

/signed

im all for the splitting up, allthough i would love to see the international skill hunter title having seperate tiers, for example:

international skill hunter (1) for 90 skills
adept international skill hunter (2) for 135 skills
advanced international skill hunter (3) for 180 skills
expert international skill hunter (4) for 235 skills
elite international skill hunter (5) for 290 skills
master international skill hunter (6) for 380 skills

in effect the international title replacing the current title so that those with a title currently wont lose out, but the maxxed titles still available on the regional titles.

and as for those who think it will cheapen KoaBD... so what? at least that would make it possible to get PKM and still have some form of a social life.

xD peace

GWMortisa · Jan 10, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05

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Originally Posted by Meat Axe

I'm all for the title change... would have voted in the poll, but i'm ignorant and only came across this topic today.

The thing I like most about this change would be the thing that appeals most to me about GW. The team responsible for this game doesn't seem to be in it just for the money. There's no monthly fee. There's nothing to stop you playing just the first chapter if that's the only one you really like. They seem to genuinely want their players to have a good time. Why else would they overload their servers during the festival events? This change would give all players something to aim for, no matter what combination of games they own. And that's the thing that makes games fun.

Those of you that say titles are pointless... I can't say you're wrong, it's your opinion. But the titles give us players something to aim for. Something that adds to the gaming experience. Something that makes a game worth buying. (I haven't bought a game apart from GW since 2001, when Baldur's Gate 2 expansion came out, and before that I only bought games like Monkey Island, with real entertainment value). GW has entertainment value because of the goals an individual can set for himself. Also the fact that the graphics are just so very pretty. I mean, anyone can play PvP, but I'm no good at it, so it's no fun. I don't know, there's something more wholesome and amusing when you get killed by a swarm of undead, fighting for your life with stinking, rotting flesh all around you. But if you're killed by someone who is better than you, it's just like "Hmm. They're better than me. Damn."

I realise this post is very long, but I take comfort in the fact that this thread was started 2 months ago, so it's unlikely that many people will read it.

So all I'm really trying to say, after this long ramble, is go title tracks. Bring them on. PvE is great. Oh, and my dervish is hot, and I'd love to see something like "International Elite Skill Hunter" on her.

Apologies in advance for the lateness of this post... have come in as new member rather late

Nice 1, Meat... pretty much said all I wanted to say

To all those complaining about the KoaBD Title being "cheapened" by this revision... Rubbish!! However you came by the Title, be it 3 Protector, 2 Cartographer or, 2 Protector, 2 Skill Hunter, 1 Cartographer, etc... its is still an emormous achievement, with all the respect that Title deserves.

Enough with the Elitist BS already... this isn't the school playground anymore, bullying the new kid to prove how "special" you are. If that's your only reason for playing Guildwars, then you're playing for the wrong reason and should go back to swinging from the treetops, because you most definitely belong there!

I do comiserate with those players, who have spent a great deal of time obtaining their Elite skills across 3 campaigns but, seriously, a little extra effort to obtain the rest isn't so bad...

Guildwars is supposed to embody the spirit of cooperative gameplay and enjoyment... a fact that seems to have been lost by a number of individuals posting in this Thread

Anet have done wonders over the last 2 years, reinventing the game to provide as much enjoyment for ALL players as possible, and all this without monthly fees - if only other MMORPG Developers worked as hard for their community - may you long continue to do so!!

Gaile as always, you're an angel... thank you for being there for us, and allowing us the opportunity to voice our various opinions regarding this matter.

Blame the Monks · Jan 11, 2007, 12:28 AM // 00:28

I am against the change. I don't want skill cap to become another Protector title -- useless.

Jecht Scye · Jan 11, 2007, 01:44 AM // 01:44

How would putting more titles toward a grander title make it any less useless? If you have the skills(As I have most of atm(224)), then you'll still have the prestige of getting to show off your KOABD title as well as having the elites unlocked not only on that character(which is usually useless, but still) but on your account as well.

Brianna · Jan 11, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48

I'm personaly not going for Kind Of a Big Deal title and i never was, i was satisfied with my 146 elite skills that i have payed alot of gold to get and have spent alot of time and frustration capping them. and they are split across all 3 chapters therefor leaving me with no title? I'd just take my money back for all that if i could. this is also my best title so.. this is very dissapointing but oh well, i shouldnt ever expect any less.

Blame the Monks · Jan 11, 2007, 02:36 AM // 02:36

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Originally Posted by Jecht Scye

How would putting more titles toward a grander title make it any less useless?

Because the "grand" title becomes easier to obtain. KoaBD is already essentially only two max titles (because the protectors are so easy), adding make it that much more watered down.

wetsparks · Jan 11, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

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Originally Posted by The Silver Star

Well its because the PvE sucks so people need something to do like egt titles since they complete the game within a day or two. LEave scrubs to grind there titles, split the Elite title up, should of been that way fro mthe start but have a title for having them all etc throguh all campaigns.

And it is people like you that makes me love pve so much. I've done some gvg, ra, ta, and tried to do some ha, but its people with that kind of attitude that reminds me why fighting enemies that dont have an attitude is so satisfying. If they kill me, I'm not going to get called a noob, and if I kill them they wont accuse me of sneeking up on them, or spiking them as "you got to have x number of players to kill me...noob."

KennyC · Jan 12, 2007, 05:34 AM // 05:34

Nice post MEAT AXE.

I agree totally, split it up into three chapter titles. I have 220 Elites accross all 3 campaigns but not any 1 campaign is maxed out. (missing inneptitude from Proph)

Also with the Skill cap weekend coming up It feels like youre gonna make the change soon! GG and thanks for all the hard work

@ The Silver Star - If Pve suck so bad and only us scrubs play it then why are you bothering to post?

Sainor · Jan 12, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Just wondering when they gonna change SH title system.

eloc_jcg · Jan 12, 2007, 03:11 PM // 15:11

I would like to have it the same but either way works. With this double weekend I plan on capturing skills. Problem is it would be easier to get them causing it to be a more poular title.